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Post by gagal on Jun 29, 2007 12:32:48 GMT -5
Just my opinion.........
I want to see Theresa found and brought back home and the person responsible brought to justice for this........with that said, I honestly feel that LE wants to see the same thing. I understand some people think there is a coverup going on and that LE isn't doing all they need to do, but I personally think they are doing all they know to do. It is frustrating to all of us looking in from the outside because we aren't getting any new information, but we have to try and remember that us wanting to know details isn't more important than the person responsible (in my opinion Sam Parker) spending the rest of his life in jail. Just because we're not seeing progress or things happening doesn't mean it's not going on behind the scenes. I don't want them to tell every single detail and jeopardize the case they're building. When Theresa's family (who I am sure LE is keeping informed) says they are unhappy with LE and the investigation, then that's when I will lose confidence in them. For now, if the family is satisfied they are doing what they can, then I am too.
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Post by timetraveler on Jun 29, 2007 21:32:27 GMT -5
Hey, If the family is happy, so be it.
I don't think there is a "cover-up" so to speak.
You cant cover up something you never uncovered to begin with.
I think the moment LE knew TP was deceased- 99.9% sure.
Thats when they slammed on the brakes, took a big breath, passed off the dirty work to Rome and begged for a "gag order".
As long as there was a chance of finding TP alive, they were forthcoming with clues. They are in no hurry now. They are comfortable with the case, they know exactly what happened to who, and where they did it. they are enjoying celebrity status, making tons of overtime pay and dont have to account to the public when they camp out in the donut shop all day.
who would want to end that duty?
thats what I think
TT
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Post by aleamon98 on Jun 30, 2007 1:45:40 GMT -5
Hey, If the family is happy, so be it. I don't think there is a "cover-up" so to speak. You cant cover up something you never uncovered to begin with. I think the moment LE knew TP was deceased- 99.9% sure. Thats when they slammed on the brakes, took a big breath, passed off the dirty work to Rome and begged for a "gag order". As long as there was a chance of finding TP alive, they were forthcoming with clues. They are in no hurry now. They are comfortable with the case, they know exactly what happened to who, and where they did it. they are enjoying celebrity status, making tons of overtime pay and dont have to account to the public when they camp out in the donut shop all day. who would want to end that duty? thats what I think TT I am sure that you are incorrect. this isn't in any way for the town to want celebrity status. Why would any town want to be remembered for something like that being unsolved. I do think that there is corruption on the LE there but I am not saying they aren't doing their best on this case. Sure there are things that they could be doing better, but unless you are LE you don't know what they are doing behind the scenes anymore than the rest of us. I don't think that they have given up hope and I don't think that we should either. I am sure that LE is accounting for their actions daily and I bet that if you go by the donut shop you will rarely see a officer there unless they are on break. I am sorry but I may not like some of the practices of the LE in this area, but I cannot say anything bad as far as the job that they do.
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Post by gagal on Jun 30, 2007 8:23:13 GMT -5
When I said I don't think there is a coverup, I meant with the police department as a whole. When you give people like policemen authority, you are going to always have your few bad apples that abuse the system. I do think it's possible that a few of the fellow officers helped Sam in the beginning, possibly by giving him info on what the police knew and what was being said or giving him heads up on what they were planning, etc. We know that at least 1 officer tried helping him out in some way, Ben Chaffin. I believe it's likely that even then when Ben and others were helping him out, it was because they probably thought he was totally innocent. I think once it became clear that things were very suspicous and that most likely he was responsible for harming Theresa that most took a step back away from him. I believe as a whole LE wants this case solved, especially once they brought in the GBI. I can't think of a reason the GBI would be covering for him. I'm sure they're doing all they can.
As far as Sheriff Wilson, people have talked about him for talking to Sam the night he threatened to kill himself and the way he seems to still be considered a friend by Sam, I think it's POSSIBLE that maybe the sheriff is doing a little bad cop/good cop thing.....Sam thinks everybody is out to get him now (and they are) so maybe Wilson wants to stay on his good side and give the appearance he supports him, blah, blah, blah because maybe he thinks he can make him think he's a friend and get him to be easier to deal with later........just a thought, not really sure if I think that's the case or not.
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Post by Mia on Jun 30, 2007 15:59:44 GMT -5
GA Gal, Al98, thank you for all your hard work, and I enjoy reading your thoughts and this subject. Someone said to me today, they felt we were on the brink of some answers. I agree with the good cop bad cop . At this point do you think SP has convinced himself with all the lies that he didn't do anything? I think someone with his mental issues is capable of that. Also, someone said today that they felt he would slowly go insane if he is not charged. Where's the control? altho he knows where Theresa is, if everyone stops asking him and goes on. Do you think he will go crazy wondering? Until she is found and with the explosives, I don't think he will have a job in LE. Do you? Also, are his assets, (money in bank and and new purchases he wants to make, aren't those frozen? Sorry! Just wondering. Thanks Mia
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Post by timetraveler on Jul 1, 2007 2:36:58 GMT -5
Aleamon98- I dont know what came over me there. I had a bad hair day and just wanted to kick something. Bad choice of something to kick because as you mentioned, I dont know what they are doing. And when I speculate without first doing my homework, sometimes I realize later, I was way off the mark...
Nothing wrong with eatin donuts though... my dad is a retired police sgt who gave it 40 straight years on the street. When I was a kid, he would bring home the extras and Id chow em down like a little cop in training. We still love em.
What else can I say? Live and LEarn.
TT
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Post by gagal on Jul 1, 2007 10:28:07 GMT -5
I brought this over from WCM because I don't think there is a big coverup but I do think it possible that Sam still has friends in LE that support him and could be giving him information about the progress of the investigation, what they are uncovering and where they are looking, what details they know about his whereabouts, etc. This could in turn help SP plot his next move and know exactly what to tell investigators to cover his tracks and make excuses for certain things they know......... Previously posted on Walker County Messenger blog, 07/01/2007: Just a thought.........not saying it is so but just makes you wonder. Juga - you have said in the past that you have a family member that is in LE. You also get on here and claim to know a lot more than anybody and hint at (sometimes just come right out and say it) that you know far more than we do about this case........you're also very supportive of Sam and get defensive for him and seem to believe what he says about stuff (for example that the explosives had been there and they gave them to him and knew about them, blah, blah blah). That leads me to believe that your family member from LE that is giving you your information is also probably very supportive of Sam and believes his side of things. That in turn leads me to wonder.....is your "family member in LE" letting Sam in on the information he knows just like he is letting you in? Just an observation and a thought for everyone to ponder on just how part of LE could be helping Sam out without there being an elaborate coverup from the top.........
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Post by gagal on Jul 1, 2007 10:31:35 GMT -5
Thanks Mia
I think it's a possibility that Sam has convinced himself of that...I know people that tell so many lies they actually start to believe them.
I think if Sam wasn't crazy before he harmed Theresa the last time, that he is crazy now....I don't know his behaviors or mannerisms before this but in his interview he comes across as completely out of control and crazy to me. I mean he actually thought that people would buy the story that he knew where she was but wasn't going to tell while at the same time telling everyone how miserable he was because of her disappearance?
As far as his money and assets, I'm not really sure about that.
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Post by willow on Jul 4, 2007 16:46:11 GMT -5
Hi everyone. You know...As I sit here literally feeiling emotional exhausted by some of the arrogance in other forums by some of the other bloggers , I am still compelled to speak out. First I want to say thanks to everyone who has listened with open minds and open hearts. Even if you still walked away from my stories still thinkinh there is no way you think this was the case in the handling of Teresa's case, I still want to thank you. I want to thank you for not being curel or demeaning. You are all real troopers as far as I am concerned. On another note... Here is what lies heavy on my mind right now and I feel the need to discuss. With all that I have told, I am sure if there are people reading who knew me or my ex, or even my ex himself for that fact. They know who I am. I have told enough that some who were close could easily figure it all out. I am okay with that. I think it's about time they know that I have a voice and are likely asking themselves why now and why with this case? They all know who they are when I speak, if they know of my postings in the other forum. I don't fear them as I am a new person and no one knows where I am and who I am now. New everything, name, social, drivers lic, birth certificate etc...No worries there for me. I do want to make as much noise as possible on this case. She deserves that much. The ball was dropped when Sam got away with things he sould not have. It is as simple as that. He was a cop, if anything he should have paid a heavier price than the avg Joe as cops are held to a higher moral standard. Any way, enough on that, been there done that a dozen or so times. For all of you who are curious about it...It's hard to talk about things from my past. Actually, talking is the easy part. It's the memory of the past that becomes awakened inside you when you start to talk. To go to bed at night and have nightmares and dreams of Teresa and her last stand against her abuser etc...This is the part that takes an emotional toll on someone who lived it. the fact is, I saw enuogh in Teresa's story in the beginning that reminded me of my own that I wanted to talk no matter the consequences to my own mind or situation. It aint easy I will say that. I want each and every one of you who are willing to entertain the notion that LE failed Teresa because he was a cop to write letters to your law makers. Start a campaing on this issue. Do something about it. I think with her case being so public you can make a difference right now while people are still interested in the case and the public pressure is hot. Thanks again guys and gals and see you around again real soon.
W
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Post by cindilou on Jul 4, 2007 21:21:55 GMT -5
Willow... I think that maybe that's why I feel the way I do about a certain level of covering-up within the local LE there... because there HAD to be LE officers looking the other way when Theresa was making DV reports/calls. They covered for him, repetedly, even if "all" they did was pretend it didn't happen. If they told him that it was his personal business and not action against the community and oh by the way against the law. They were married 14 years, and he had a known past abusive record with his ex-wife as well. They've blown their integrity as far as I'm concerned... all of 'em.
So TT, I'm not convinced that you had a bad hair day... but I'm willing to be convinced. I don't think that local LE is keeping facts from becoming public (although that would not surprise me) as I do think they are guilty of that in the past. I think now they are in CYA mode personally and laying low as a whole. If any fact finding is done, I think it will be done by the outside agencies, God bless 'em.
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Post by willow on Jul 6, 2007 16:06:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the nice posts ya'll. It's nice to have some who are willing to draw from my story and relate it to Teresa's and have an open mind that allows you all to consider it just "ain't" so unbelievable that LE would turn the other cheek when they should not have. As far as the POST goes...I don;t know the details of thier involvement and have not read that was confirmed anywhere. ( about the probation Sam was put on ) The POST can only take action IF LE offcials report Sam or others like him. So I wonder if LE did notify them when there were calls to his home for DV. I doubt it, but I don;t know it. If they did not report it to POST, well...There is another cover up for you. No grand scheme of a cover up BUT looking the other way when they should not have is in some ways, a cover up. Keep posting folks. Keep the public pressure on. It might just be a big help as to how LE deals with this situation and others like it in the future.
In the soundoff I asked the question about if Sam was a member of any kind of lodge where loyalties run high. I ask this because my ex was a member of just such a club. I was curious if Sam and any of the ones who we know of that have in some way covered for him since the investigation began, might be members of a fraternal type of club along with Sam. The loyalties are super strong in some of these organizations ? It's just something I would be curious about IF he and the lawyer and the chief of police were "brothers" of another sort. Thanks guys and galls and yack at ya soon! W
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Post by willow on Jul 7, 2007 19:15:46 GMT -5
nwgamom -
It would be my guess that POST worked with his department on the probation thing. I know the department had to have reported it to POST for them to be aware of any wronf doing. I think I would be asking the question...What info did the department give POST that assisted them in making the decision they made. Maybe the department cleaned it up a little before notifying POST. Anything is possible, but I think it's fair to say his LE agency gave so called " Readers Digest " version of what happend. Maybe an ommission here and there that may have led POST to think it wasnt as bad as it actually was...It would be interesting at best to see if any of this goes public.
So...When was Sam put on probation and how long did it last and what were the requirements of Sam while on probation ?
Talk again soon ! W
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Post by grannanative on Jul 7, 2007 21:27:03 GMT -5
To answer the question of the requirements of probation. I was told that he was on probation and mandated no more trouble, mandated psychiatrist evals on regular basis with reports to POST stating he was clear to perform duties. Not sure of the rest but know that part. Probation started after the Fl incident and he had just gotten off probation within past year.
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Post by willow on Jul 7, 2007 21:52:48 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for answering so fast ! If you think of anything else...Let me know ! W
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Post by willow on Jul 8, 2007 19:40:34 GMT -5
I wanted to comment on POST and thier responsibilities with regard to Parker being put on probation. I see the answer to my first question is, yes POST had him on probation with the condition that Parker not get in to any more trouble. Still, no one has replied with a time line that would state when the probation began and when it had ended. Some say recently.
I THINK, that POST would have done what they were required to do in this case with Sam on probation. BUT !!!! , they rely on the agency heads to inform them about cops who have problems. I think LE protected Parker's job by not notifying POST. If this is the case...Another cover up is involved. I hope LE did make sure Parker was reported when it should have been but, I dont think they reported anything to POST. I tell ya....Huge liabilities are on the horizon for their invovlment. It's disappointing.
Any new info would be appreciated !
Thanks ! W
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